When Is Nudism Just Exhibitionism?
IS THIS A "BEACH VOYEUR" MAGAZINE, OR A NUDIST MAGAZINE? PROBABLY A BIT OF BOTH, WITH CERTAIN GUIDELINES.
A recent post on nudist anatomy stirred some controversy with female members who felt their "private areas" had been slighted. This is a case of taking some rhetorical musings too literally. It led to some interesting exchanges, here condensed and/or paraphrased in quotes below:
"What do you have against female genitalia?"
We have nothing against female genitalia. We show it everywhere. We understand their function and, when intimately acquainted with them (in a couples sense) there's nothing better or more fulfilling. But they don't have the 'commodity' quality of, say, breasts
or buttocks, where enjoyment isn't dependent on an intimate knowledge of the subject. Frankly, the pudendum of the female anatomy is as variable as the male penis - no two are alike. True appreciation requires intimacy. A spread-eagle pose of either sex misses the point of intimacy. It's in fact working against intimacy as it reduces mystery, and to be honest, without the intimacy, can appear unattractive.
What we don't go for is that blatant, in your face, "here's my pussy" stuff. Otherwise, carry on.
In a nudist environment one knows when to politely "look away," unless one's emotional development has been arrested at the grammar school level (e.g., such as men who enjoy Hustler or Penthouse).
"Some women enjoy spreading their legs on a nudist beach. Are you saying they shouldn't?"
That depends. While we're not saying women should rigidly avoid genital exposure, there's a difference between "overt" display and display that simply comes about from being nude and shifting oneself on their towel, or getting up and down, or the accidental but unintended "flash." There's a difference between lying spread-eagle and simply lying with one's legs apart. It's a matter of degree. Some women willing expose their "privates" on purpose - not in a porn way, but a natural one.
There's also the age factor. Teen genitalia is vastly different from an older woman's - that's just stating a fact. The same goes for the male scrotum. As for rectums, who wants to see those? You accept the accidental flash of it as a consequence of being on a nude beach, but to look for them? Not to be crude, but that's like admiring a car for its muffler.
Now, if the woman is realizing a fantasy come true (much discussed in workshops) from being exposed on a nude beach, and it requires opening her legs somewhat beyond just being relaxed, it could be titillating to a passing male, but there's no blanket guarantee. Some couples use nude beaches to liven up their sex lives, and the husband might enjoy these overt displays (and the wife as well performing them). That's "adult nudism" where the rules vary from traditional nudism.
In another feature when we asked women what turned them on in terms of male exposure on a nudist beach, the replies were all over the place, but none of you said you liked to see men spread-eagled on the beach. None of you said, ah, we like to see rectums. It goes both ways.
"You state a member is working on a post titled 'Nudism Can Be Gross.' That goes against basic principles."
Nudism can be gross, especially with our current obesity epidemic. Who wants to see fat nudists? The original tenets of nudism (FKK) advocated the pursuit of a healthy lifestyle including athletics (just look at vintage photography and note the abundance of physical recreation and exertion). FKK did state that the human body was beautiful, but it was speaking in a Platonic sense, suggesting archetypes, an aspirational form of being - something to aspire to. Youth was always the model, along with Eve and Garden of Eden motifs.
Now it's anything goes and the question is, do the morbidly obese have right to enjoy social nudism? I would say no. It's unsightly and in a sense cheating. There's this unspoken agreement of exchange in social nudism (come on, you
know there is) where I present myself to you naked, and you reciprocate. Now, if I were a fat, paunch-ridden middle-aged dude staring at you, a young, trim woman, you'd be grossed out. If we're both more or less fit and admiring each other, that's a fair exchange.
The important thing, aside from making yourself presentable (male or female), is to just relax. We know we each have our more private bits. Neither of us wants to see the other's rectum squinting out from under the bushes (so to speak). We can agree on that, and save our fantasies and deeper exhibitionistic tendencies for the more adult nudist venues. Forum